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由 RogerShih 發表於 週六 12月 28, 2002 10:29 pm
之前就提過了, 下面連結是原廠介紹, 出乎意料的, DT880 反而是新的旗艦, 而 DT990、DT770 則是 DT990 PRO 跟 DT770 PRO 的 HI-FI 對應改良.
http://www.beyerdynamic.de/com/maerkte/hifi/cont.htm
現在只有等代理進來先試聽看看有什麼不同囉
http://www.beyerdynamic.de/com/maerkte/hifi/cont.htm
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由 Stoneray 發表於 週日 1月 26, 2003 11:31 pm
大家好 這是我第一次發言說:
應未想換新耳機 而我屬意的就是這支DT-880
今天在 headwize 上看到這份評論 希望跟大家分享
不知各位覺得文章中說的 中肯嗎?
http://headwize2.powerpill.org/ubb/showpage5.php?fnum=1&tid=5676&fdays=20&
文章如下: 來自 headwize
DT880 versus DT931, DT831, HP910, HD600SC (SC=Stock Cable).
Headroom Max Headphone Amp
JVC XV-D723 DVD/CD player
Sony C333ES SACD/DVD/CD player
Basia – Brave New Hope (Special Edition CD5)
Paula Cole – This Fire
Enigma – Greatest Hits, MCMXC
Scott E. Freeman – Dulcimer
Annie Lennox (various)
DT931 versus DT831
DT931 has better bass extension, much tighter bass, and fuller vocals, with a more forward midrange.
DT831 versus DT931
DT831 sounds like it has a wider soundstage, airier, slightly brighter.
DT831 versus DT880
The DT831 sounds like it has a 3.2 KHz presence.
DT931 versus DT880
The DT931 seems to have a 250 Hz presence
DT880 versus DT931
DT880 is less power efficient, has a very wide soundstage (bordering on 3D positioning), smoother vocals, spacial separation is greater (40 degrees, 15 degrees forward). [The DT880 sounds like a 180 degree soundstage, the DT931 sounds like 140 degrees, the HD600 sounds like 120 degrees]. The DT831 sounded like it was behind & up by 15 degrees.
If you are used to tubes ("tube sound") with 80 dB channel separation, the DT831 would sound like it has 100 dB channel separation, and the DT880 sounds like it has 120 dB channel separation. The sound comparison of a DT880 versus HD600 would be like comparing an amp with a common power supply and an amp with separate power supplies (dual mono channels with separate power supplies).
In a word, the DT880 sounds UNCOMPRESSED, uncoloured, neutral and transparent compared to the above headphones. THINK ELECTROSTATIC VINYL WITH BASS. The overall sound is between electrostatics and dynamics. If someone could make a low voltage electrostatic, this is what it would sound like. The HP910 sounds coloured compared to all the other headphones (but they are great at low listening volumes) but “the veil” is greater than the HD600. That said, the DT880 does not have the “energy” of the DT931, but HD600 owners will find it to their liking, being totally flat from 100 Hz to 3 KHz. The DT931 sounds like it has a collapsed soundstage compared to the DT880 (see above note).
The HD600 is renowned for their smooth vocals. But, if you think the HD600 has smooth vocals, the DT880 is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH smoother. I am a great proponent of the DT831, having described the DT831 as being smooth. But on Basia’s “Masquerade” the DT831 and DT931 sounded sibilant and harsh compared to the DT880, the DT880 vocals being SILKY smooth.
Want to know what the Sennheiser HD700 is likely to sound like? Get a DT880.
In a word, with SACD classical, the DT880 is AWESOME. It sounds like you are listening to it “LIVE.” The DT880 is GREAT for classical and chamber. Chamber music fans will LOVE the presence of the DT880.
If you are used to a “headphone sound” you will find yourself turning up the volume to the distortion point; it is that clear, that open, and that airy, with that much wider a soundstage. In other words “LIVE,” albeit with a slightly ‘less’ high-end energy. Trumpets with a muter sound slightly restrained. I wonder what removing the driver covering, and replacing with a panty hose covering (or Audio Technica or AKG cloth), would do to the overall sound.
If you are used to the volume levels of the AKG K340, with its attendant smooth and silky midrange, you have found your next headphone. The DT880 is that good. But, the highs on the DT880 are that much better, with better transients and decay. On the Headroom Max you may want to set it to “bright” to approximate the sound of lesser headphones, or just to make it sound brighter (like the HD590). As it is, the “bright” setting should be re-engineered (on the Headroom Max) to optimize it with the DT880, since the “bright” setting seems to have been optimized for the HD600. Whereas you would need something on the order of +6 to +8 dB to optimize the HD600, you would only need +3 dB to optimize the DT880 (more like 2.3 to 2.5 dB at 15 to 16 KHz). On some recordings it seems like the Headroom Max does not have enough gain, since I was able to set it to “high gain” and max volume without distortion. It is that clean and clear; no distortion at very high volumes (unlike a lot of headphones, like the Audio Technicas and AKGs, and to a certain extent the DT831 and DT931).
Final Synopsis: The DT880 is definitely between the sound of the DT831 and DT931, without the harshness of either, with a MUCH smoother vocal range than both (and MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better than the HD600), much higher voltage handling range, unveiled, uncoloured, UNCOMPRESSED, transparent, neutral, with a greater sense of soundstage (about 30 degrees forward, 30 degrees back, 20 degrees left, 20 degrees right [horizontal plane], 15 degrees forward, 20 degrees back[vertical plane]).
You can now add the DT880 in the HD600 versus W1000 versus CD3000 wars. It is that good.
Jan – put me down for a DT880. I want mine as soon as possible.
A headphone to be enjoyed for hours. You listen to the music, and forget everything else. Once you get used to the VERY wide sound of the soundstage, everything else will sound COMPRESSED.
The DT880: the smooth, sweet sound of Electrostatics playing vynil, possessing high bass, played through tube amplifers. WIDE soundstage. Sounds UNCOMPRESSED compared to most headphones.
謝謝
應未想換新耳機 而我屬意的就是這支DT-880
今天在 headwize 上看到這份評論 希望跟大家分享
不知各位覺得文章中說的 中肯嗎?
http://headwize2.powerpill.org/ubb/showpage5.php?fnum=1&tid=5676&fdays=20&
文章如下: 來自 headwize
DT880 versus DT931, DT831, HP910, HD600SC (SC=Stock Cable).
Headroom Max Headphone Amp
JVC XV-D723 DVD/CD player
Sony C333ES SACD/DVD/CD player
Basia – Brave New Hope (Special Edition CD5)
Paula Cole – This Fire
Enigma – Greatest Hits, MCMXC
Scott E. Freeman – Dulcimer
Annie Lennox (various)
DT931 versus DT831
DT931 has better bass extension, much tighter bass, and fuller vocals, with a more forward midrange.
DT831 versus DT931
DT831 sounds like it has a wider soundstage, airier, slightly brighter.
DT831 versus DT880
The DT831 sounds like it has a 3.2 KHz presence.
DT931 versus DT880
The DT931 seems to have a 250 Hz presence
DT880 versus DT931
DT880 is less power efficient, has a very wide soundstage (bordering on 3D positioning), smoother vocals, spacial separation is greater (40 degrees, 15 degrees forward). [The DT880 sounds like a 180 degree soundstage, the DT931 sounds like 140 degrees, the HD600 sounds like 120 degrees]. The DT831 sounded like it was behind & up by 15 degrees.
If you are used to tubes ("tube sound") with 80 dB channel separation, the DT831 would sound like it has 100 dB channel separation, and the DT880 sounds like it has 120 dB channel separation. The sound comparison of a DT880 versus HD600 would be like comparing an amp with a common power supply and an amp with separate power supplies (dual mono channels with separate power supplies).
In a word, the DT880 sounds UNCOMPRESSED, uncoloured, neutral and transparent compared to the above headphones. THINK ELECTROSTATIC VINYL WITH BASS. The overall sound is between electrostatics and dynamics. If someone could make a low voltage electrostatic, this is what it would sound like. The HP910 sounds coloured compared to all the other headphones (but they are great at low listening volumes) but “the veil” is greater than the HD600. That said, the DT880 does not have the “energy” of the DT931, but HD600 owners will find it to their liking, being totally flat from 100 Hz to 3 KHz. The DT931 sounds like it has a collapsed soundstage compared to the DT880 (see above note).
The HD600 is renowned for their smooth vocals. But, if you think the HD600 has smooth vocals, the DT880 is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH smoother. I am a great proponent of the DT831, having described the DT831 as being smooth. But on Basia’s “Masquerade” the DT831 and DT931 sounded sibilant and harsh compared to the DT880, the DT880 vocals being SILKY smooth.
Want to know what the Sennheiser HD700 is likely to sound like? Get a DT880.
In a word, with SACD classical, the DT880 is AWESOME. It sounds like you are listening to it “LIVE.” The DT880 is GREAT for classical and chamber. Chamber music fans will LOVE the presence of the DT880.
If you are used to a “headphone sound” you will find yourself turning up the volume to the distortion point; it is that clear, that open, and that airy, with that much wider a soundstage. In other words “LIVE,” albeit with a slightly ‘less’ high-end energy. Trumpets with a muter sound slightly restrained. I wonder what removing the driver covering, and replacing with a panty hose covering (or Audio Technica or AKG cloth), would do to the overall sound.
If you are used to the volume levels of the AKG K340, with its attendant smooth and silky midrange, you have found your next headphone. The DT880 is that good. But, the highs on the DT880 are that much better, with better transients and decay. On the Headroom Max you may want to set it to “bright” to approximate the sound of lesser headphones, or just to make it sound brighter (like the HD590). As it is, the “bright” setting should be re-engineered (on the Headroom Max) to optimize it with the DT880, since the “bright” setting seems to have been optimized for the HD600. Whereas you would need something on the order of +6 to +8 dB to optimize the HD600, you would only need +3 dB to optimize the DT880 (more like 2.3 to 2.5 dB at 15 to 16 KHz). On some recordings it seems like the Headroom Max does not have enough gain, since I was able to set it to “high gain” and max volume without distortion. It is that clean and clear; no distortion at very high volumes (unlike a lot of headphones, like the Audio Technicas and AKGs, and to a certain extent the DT831 and DT931).
Final Synopsis: The DT880 is definitely between the sound of the DT831 and DT931, without the harshness of either, with a MUCH smoother vocal range than both (and MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better than the HD600), much higher voltage handling range, unveiled, uncoloured, UNCOMPRESSED, transparent, neutral, with a greater sense of soundstage (about 30 degrees forward, 30 degrees back, 20 degrees left, 20 degrees right [horizontal plane], 15 degrees forward, 20 degrees back[vertical plane]).
You can now add the DT880 in the HD600 versus W1000 versus CD3000 wars. It is that good.
Jan – put me down for a DT880. I want mine as soon as possible.
A headphone to be enjoyed for hours. You listen to the music, and forget everything else. Once you get used to the VERY wide sound of the soundstage, everything else will sound COMPRESSED.
The DT880: the smooth, sweet sound of Electrostatics playing vynil, possessing high bass, played through tube amplifers. WIDE soundstage. Sounds UNCOMPRESSED compared to most headphones.
謝謝
- Stoneray
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说它是240DF的升级是指音响方面而言。
由 xlqxlq 發表於 週三 1月 29, 2003 4:31 pm
880没有240DF那么活泼，欠亮度。
听过就知道了，我也不多说了，很好的耳机，喜欢AKG的话不可能不喜欢它。
- xlqxlq
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K240DF 最讓我印象深刻的就是聽爵士的臨場感活生, HD600 據我感覺就是缺了點亮度才不夠活潑的啊。
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